"Okay, here's the plan. You blindfold him, we tie him up, gag him and throw him into the sea."

"No? You're right, we can't carry him all the way to the sea."

"Okay, maybe we could do this. You blindfold him, we tie him up, and you chop off all his fingers. Then we throw his fingers into the sea!"

"No? Then what?"

"Oh come on Gebu, you're not helping."